Saul Rubinek & Eddie McClintock Discuss Season Four Of ‘Warehouse 13′

As fans will know tomorrow, which is the 23 July hails the start of the much anticipated fourth season of Warehouse 13 on Syfy Channel. Earlier in the week...


As fans will know tomorrow, which is the 23 July hails the start of the much anticipated fourth season of Warehouse 13 on Syfy Channel.

Earlier in the week SciFiPulse was lucky enough to be attending a phone conference with Warehouse 13 stars Saul Rubinek and Eddie McClintock.

Below are some highlights from the call:

As always the first question asked was what new artifacts are we going to see in the show this year, which as Saul Rubinek points out is the one question they can’t answer, but it didn’t stop them having some fun with it.

Saul Rubinek: It’s really hilarious how you guys ask us the one question that we can’t answer. You know that we’re going to have to spoil everything if we start talking about this.

I can tell you this though.

Our show is not called Giant Chasm in the Ground 13, it’s called Warehouse 13, so obviously they’re going to figure out a way to bring the Warehouse back. But we’ve had artifacts. We know that there’s a downside to using them. There are always consequences. And what the writers decided was that there had to be some consequences that were irrevocable. There were consequences that would be so dark that – so it that it wouldn’t just be easy.

So, “Oh, they’re dead. All right. We have an artifact for that.” “The Warehouse is gone. We have an artifact for that,” so everything becomes easy. It’s not going to be that easy. And whatever we use will have consequences for the life of this – of the characters and for the life of the series.

So that’s what I can tell you is that the use of artifacts becomes a darker and more dangerous and less takebackable thing than ever before. Would you say Eddie that’s true?

Eddie McClintock: Yes. And not necessarily that it changes the show totally, but certainly there will be fallout from the use of artifacts that we cannot take back. You know, that stay with everybody. The change, it changes everyone permanently.

But from week to week you still have fun ones.

Saul Rubinek: Yes.

Eddie McClintock: … and it stays light.

But definitely like Saul said, we don’t want the show to become predictable, so you have to be able to know that we can’t just fix everything every time.

This year Warehouse 13 will run for a longer season than in previous years and when asked about that both actors felt it was rather flattering and a credit to the show that Syfy has such faith in it, but they also pointed out the downsides to the longer production schedule that comes with the extra episodes, but also shared a bit of humour about it all too.

Saul Rubinek: Well, they’re really two seasons. It’s really a real vote of confidence from the network and the studio to do that with us. That’s how we felt.

I mean, it’s a little harder I would say on those of us that have kids, and Eddie is farthest away. I don’t live that far away because I’m in New York and my kids are older, so it’s a mix. A little different. My daughter is in college and I can get back. That’s the hardest thing for Eddie, right Eddie? That longer season?

Eddie McClintock: Yes. If my boys and my wife could be in Toronto with me all the time, it would be much, much easier. It’s a quality problem. I’m on a show that’s been on the air for four years now. I’m making a living as an actor in Hollywood in arguably one of the darkest times in the American economy, so I really have no complaints except Saul is the only one.

Saul Rubinek: Other than me.

Eddie McClintock: Saul’s my only complaint.

The scenes between Artie and Pete take on somewhat of an edgier feel this year and when asked about that both actors were more than happy to share their thoughts about how the onscreen relationship has changed.

Eddie McClintock: Well for me, it’s always great to be able to work with Saul – and unfortunately, we don’t get to do it as much as we would like. Not to blow too much smoke here for Saul, but I have such a great deal of respect for his work and the way he approaches his work, that anytime that I can be a part of that, I think it makes me a better actor and I think my work is better.

The opportunity to really do something serious with Saul – it’s those moments for me that make all the moments of tedium worthwhile. I do all the other stuff and I love the other stuff as well, but it seems like the one you’re talking about – ones that actually move me, I don’t have to work up emotions for those scenes. Saul is present; I’m there, the writing’s good, and things just happen.

Not to be too trite, but that’s the magic of what we do I guess.

Saul Rubinek: Thanks Eddie for that. I think that we’re a team. Over the last four years we’ve really become a team. We’re like a family. It’s not like we don’t have bumps with each other like any family does, but we have certainly one of the best crews in Toronto, and I know that because I’m a Toronto actor from way back and I know Toronto crews.

We’re a show that other crews envy because there’s no prima donna. There’s just hard work and a lot of fun, a lot of which is because Eddie really keeps things light and entertaining. I call it his buffoonery. But it’s true and we do have a wonderful time together.

Eddie McClintock: Why are you laughing when you say that?

Saul Rubinek: I think that you’ll find that might be a common denominator for shows that work is that when there is that team and that mutual respect and fun that’s going on and everybody’s working together, the work is fairly easy.

We’re especially blessed because Jack Kenny – our show runner is available to be on the set with us. He used to be an actor. He’s incredibly collaborative. If things don’t fit in our mouths the way that they were written on the page, things are changed. We get to improvise a little bit, and we’re extremely lucky.

Well, I did. Yes. That’s an example of how things are on the set with Eddie all the time.

When we do serious stuff together, it’s fun, it’s quick and it’s easy, and we don’t do it enough. The way the show’s tracked out this particular year, we had less to do with each other than even before, so we’re hoping that’ll change. But we have a great time together. I’m sure that’s obvious from watching the show.

The season premier sees a lot of twist and turns that will excite and thrill fans. So when asked how they felt when they got the script for the opening episode both Rubinek and McClintock oozed enthusiasm with there answers.

Saul Rubinek: It was really exciting. Really, really exciting. But what we got to do a lot of working in front of a green screen where we have to imagine. We had a big screening with the cast and crew a couple of Sundays ago and we got to see it.

And on a big screen it was kind of awesome because the special effects looked so great. And a lot of it we were just in front of a green screen with no idea of what it was going to look like, so that was pretty exciting for us to see.

Eddie McClintock: When you take a television screen formatted show and you blow it up onto a movie theater sized screen, it can be scary because you think, “Oh, okay. Maybe we need to go back down.” Because you know, a lot of times you see the flaws.

But like Saul said, the show looks huge. The special effects department does such an amazing job with the time and the budget that they get. They’re just crunched every week because we have a lot of effects. Certain shows are more effect-laden than others, but I’m really proud of the premier episode. I can’t wait to see the rest.

I’m as anxious as the fans because I have no idea once we do the show and move on to the next show, I forget the previous show. I’m just not smart enough to retain – like Allison. She remembers every line of every show she’s ever done. I forget my lines after I move to the next scene. So I’m almost seeing them for the first time just as the fans are.

As fans will already know. This season sees Brent Spiner in a recurring role, which pits him again Artie. Saul Rubinek and Brent Spiner last worked together on the Star Trek: The Next Generation episodes ‘The Most Toys’, but this time round Rubinek gets to play the good guy. When asked about the reunion Rubinek was very excited to talk about it.

Saul Rubinek: Yes. I’m not going to tell you exactly what happens, but it does – the whole nemesis thing was great. We’ve even put some clues in for our fans that relate to us having done The Most Toys. Some lines of dialog that suggest that we’ve worked together before, so that’s fun. It’ll be fun for fans to figure out.

It was a great season for me because I got to work a lot with Brent. We got to renew our friendship because we live in different cities now. And we started off actually in the theater together. We did a play in New York together in 1979, and the reunion was when we did the Star Trek TNG was in ’89. It was ten years after that and here we are, wow, 22 years after that. It was awesome. We had a great time.

But one question that was on my mind during this conference call was is there to be another Christmas Episode? Unfortunately the answer to that was no and its due to the fact that they have filmed a total of 20 episodes. Ten of which to run during the summer and the other ten to air in April of 2913. That said both actors were happy to discuss the Christmas episode they did last year

Eddie McClintock: Yes. Well this last year’s was I thought it was one of the best episodes of the whole series.

Saul Rubinek: Yes, it was beautiful. It was really beautiful. It was a great episode. It was a way for all of us to get back together, the whole idea of It’s a Wonderful Life. It was really, really cool. We really enjoyed it.

On the other hand you don’t usually have us after we’re done at the end of August. You don’t see us again until July. You’ll have us again in April, so that’s a cool thing.

Warehouse 13 starts this Monday on Syfy Channel and will no doubt hit the UK Syfy Channel in a matter of weeks.

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 By Ian M. Cullen

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